Summary
- The introduction of the powerful villain Knull in Venom 3 raises concerns about the rushed conclusion.
- Rumors suggest Venom could transition from Sony Marvel universe to MCU, although past misdirects cast doubt.
- If Knull is as powerful as in comics, potential crossover to MCU could require significant lore changes.
With the latest Venom: The Last Dance trailer, one of the most powerful villains in any superhero universe was officially unveiled, with Tom Hardy’s Eddie Brock being warned that this particular baddie is the reason the symbiotes are on earth in the first place. It certainly seems like an exciting way to end the trilogy and fans do know that the trilogy is ending in no uncertain terms, considering the movie is “the last dance.” There have been a few movies out there that were more specific about their intent.
While Venom: The Last Dance certainly looks like an interesting way to end a series, it also offers some problems. And then there are the rumors about what the introduction of Knull means for a movie that isn’t going to have a three or four-hour run time. Even if those rumors weren’t floating around, it would seem odd to introduce a character that is said to have power stronger than Thanos in the final film of a trilogy. It simply appears as though it’s done too quickly. It seems like an odd way to wrap something up when they could have introduced him in the first Venom and had the battle against the ultimate evil span several chapters. Unless, of course, this doesn’t wrap up anything.
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Could Venom Be Headed To The MCU?
There have been more than a few rumors floating around the super hero movie world that claim the real thing the last leg of promos for Venom 3 is showing off is how Eddie Brock and his symbiote buddy will jump from the rather troubled Sony Marvel universe to the MCU. In fact, these rumors seem to indicate that the introduction of Knull isn’t wrapping up anything and there’s reason to believe this might be the case. The thing fans getting excited about those rumors need to understand is that this identical kind of talk has been around before.
In fact, Sony has intentionally run a few misdirects in this area. This isn’t anywhere near the first time that talk of Venom jumping into a Spider-Man movie was imminent. And yet, so far Sony has pulled the football away from fans like the company is Lucy and the audience is Charlie Brown. And considering Sony hasn’t had any qualms doing it before, there’s no reason to believe they wouldn’t do it again to get people to go see the final installment of its Venom trilogy.
How Could Venom’s Story Be Incorporated?
There is also the argument that it simply doesn’t make much sense for Venom: The Last Dance to tie into Spider-Man 4 considering the introduction of the villain in the original movies and the comics was that the symbiote was a mystery. Peter Parker didn’t realize what it would do to him when he fully embraced it. That he didn’t even know what it was. And of course, that the symbiote was full on evil when it first infected Peter. Sony has now spent three movies turning the villain into a hero. Venom spent about 15 minutes being an anti-hero in the first film and now he’s on par with Spidey as far as saving lives and doing good.
Sony has now spent three movies turning the villain into a hero.
In order to blend Venom into the MCU, Kevin Feige and company will have to make quite a few changes to the lore. And that doesn’t seem like something Marvel fans would love. The rumors that Tom Holland’s Parker will find the suit and then all sorts of things will go wrong is testament to that. While Eddie Brock still has to wrangle the symbiote plenty of dial back its base instincts, it’s clearly learned morality lessons that wouldn’t all of a sudden be wiped out on another host body.
A Thanos Approach To Knull Would Be Intriguing
Having said all of that, it’s not hard to see why people are excited about a tie-in from the Venom franchise to Spider-Man and the MCU. Especially if Knull really is as powerful as he in the comics. If he’s on the level of, or even surpasses Thanos then it would make sense to introduce him in Venom: The Last Dance and then have him carry over as well.
Sony has hinted at MCU crossovers with no payoff several times before.
If he’s as powerful as the comics make him, he’s not someone that could be defeated as a late arrival in a single film. This is in fact, the thing that makes the most sense for Venom 3. It’s the one thing that makes all the rumors less confusing. There would still need to be an awful lot of retconning of the story of how Peter Parker puts on the suit and what happens after. Unless the goal is to never have Parker wear the suit at all, and Venom simply jumps over to the MCU as an ally. It’s possible a great deal of this confusion will be cleared up when Venom: The Last Dance releases on October 25.
- Release Date
- October 25, 2024
- Runtime
- 110 Minutes
- Director
- Kelly Marcel
- Writers
- Kelly Marcel, Tom Hardy
- Prequel(s)
- Venom, Venom: Let There Be Carnage
- Franchise(s)
- Spider-Man, Venom
Cast
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Tom HardyEddie Brock / Venom -
Chiwetel EjioforStrickland